NO CEX Inside the Perp DEX Revolution

Video
October 22, 2025

The CEX trust crisis is accelerating a massive migration to Decentralized Exchanges.

Join Tristan (Bullet Co-founder), Trevor/Flip (Delphi Digital), and Anand "Fiddy" (Paradex Co-founder/CEO) as they debate the biggest challenges facing the Perp DEX ecosystem, from risk management models (ADL vs. Socialized Loss) to the structural shift that is transforming Perp DEXes into the Financial Super Centers of the emerging internet economy.

Discover why the massive market size (TAM) of this sector will be measured in the trillions and how innovative models like Zero Fees and flow curation are essential weapons to disrupt CEX giants like Binance.

Key Concepts

- CEX Trust Erosion and The Great Migration: Recent market events (like the October 11th liquidation cascade) accelerate the migration from CEXs to DEXs due to a lack of transparency and accountability. DeFi, despite challenges, held up systematically and transparently.

- ADL vs. Socialized Loss: The founders debate risk management models for bankrupt accounts. ADL (Auto-Deleveraging) is critiqued as a "crude relic" that lacks predictability and breaks user hedges (inter- and intra-exchange). The preferred model (Paradex's Socialized Loss) separates solvency from position close-out and introduces time, allowing users to manually unwind hedges before a final close-out.

- The Financial Super Center Thesis: Perp Dexes are the natural financial infrastructure of the Internet Economy (the physical economy moving on-chain). The Total Addressable Market (TAM) is measured in the trillions, combining the roles of banks, brokers, clearinghouses, and exchanges (CME, Nasdaq) into a single composable entity.

- Zero Fees & Disruption: Zero fees for non-toxic retail takers is viewed as the necessary disruptive business model to attack the CEX Achilles Heel (fees) and acquire market share. Revenue is generated by taxing market makers who access curated, benign flow.

- The Next Steps: The next hurdles for DEX supremacy include dramatic improvements to UX/On-Ramps (eliminating clunky wallet management and cross-chain bridging) and innovative solutions for liquidity (multi-dimensional surfaces, RFQ, dark pools)

Timestamps

0:00:53 Introduction of Guests: Trevor/Flip (Delphi Digital), Tristan (Bullet), and Fiddy (Paradex) 

0:04:14 Fiddy Introduces Paradex (Institutional Background, Stack, Zero Fees, Unified Margin)  

0:06:21 October 11th Liquidation Event: CEX/DEX Performance Review

0:07:28 Binance's Flaw: Mock Pricing referencing internal Order Books  

0:11:07 The Core Question: ADL vs. Socialized Loss for Risk Management 

0:12:03 Binance Accountability & The Erosion of CEX Trust

0:15:22 The Minsky Moment: CEX Failures as a Catalyst for DEX Migration 

0:17:50 Tristan on Bullet's Liquidator Learnings (95% margin to 0% in one minute) 

0:20:14 Paradex's Handling: No Socialized Loss, Insurance Fund Increased 

0:27:12 Fiddy on ADL's Flaws: It's a Crude Relic that Lacks Predictability and Breaks Hedges 

0:34:00 Socialized Loss Advantage: Introduces Time to Unwind Hedges 

0:42:29 The "No CEX" Movement: Transparency and Accountability is Key 

0:47:10 The Financial Super Center Thesis: DEX TAM is Trillions (Banks, Brokerages, CME)  

0:52:50 Debate: Is the Zero-Fee Model Sustainable? 

1:01:20 UX, On-Ramps, and User Education are the Next Hurdles 

1:07:14 Competition: The Strategy of Firing "100 Bullets" (Continuous Innovation)